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3/9/2010 1:32:00 AM
TNA = redneck circus (with geezer blood)
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3/9/2010 3:04:00 AM
well... lets start with the truth... monday night wars part 2 was a failure... both shows were a letdown... raw did not continue the push to wrestlemania the way it should have... and the big tna live impact was lackluster at best... i watched both with picture in picture... what a dissappointment...
so... how about those first 5 minutes tna?... you promised a hot start... and the first 10 minutes only produced a hulk hogan promo... wow... nothing hot about that... fail... and the "match"?... fail... it was all for the sting heel turn... 20 minutes in... not much substance... but it did set up the main event... but even a second round of this is crap... these hall of famers embarrassed themselves in the ring tonight... fact...
williams vs daniels vs kaz looked good on paper, and i thought a chance to turn things around... that match was over choreographed... cause everyone was telegraphing their moves... plus, can you say sloppy?... wow... and again, more interference from outside people.. moore interfering didnt do it for me...
tna knockout match... zzzzzz... honestly, for the first time ever, the WWE divas had a better match on raw than these chicks did on tna... poor showing for the chicks...
sting and rvd?... i loved seeing rvd again... he looks to be in good shape and ready for a good run... but 10 seconds?... it made the new heel look weak and rvd debut fizzle... it does help rvd get a babyface start, but thats the best they had?... wow... waste of 2 huge names...
by the way... the sting destroying rvd with the bat... can you say deja vu?... it reminded me a lot of batista turning heel, and destroying cena with a chair... almost a direct copy of what the WWE did... although, not as well... originality there tna, originality... try it once in a while...
to keep this short... tna was loaded with promo's... very litle wrestling... total non-stop promos was short of the mark tonight... i'm sure tna marks will come out of everywhere today to claim superiority... but you have to look at this from reality... it was sub-par...
so... in 2 hours could tna have had more shots of hogan and bischoff?... seriously... let someone else get tv time... and hogan returning to the ring was sad... watching a legend like hulk do that tonight reminded me of a cripple...
there were some positives tonight... and things they can run with and develop... but tna has a very long way to go... very long... they had a month to plan for this show... and it didnt show... maybe the ratings will surprise... but tna's second opportunity at the monday night war was a letdown...
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3/9/2010 9:19:00 AM
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Originally Posted by __STFU__
well... lets start with the truth... monday night wars part 2 was a failure... both shows were a letdown... raw did not continue the push to wrestlemania the way it should have... and the big tna live impact was lackluster at best... i watched both with picture in picture... what a dissappointment...
so... how about those first 5 minutes tna?... you promised a hot start... and the first 10 minutes only produced a hulk hogan promo... wow... nothing hot about that... fail... and the "match"?... fail... it was all for the sting heel turn... 20 minutes in... not much substance... but it did set up the main event... but even a second round of this is crap... these hall of famers embarrassed themselves in the ring tonight... fact...
williams vs daniels vs kaz looked good on paper, and i thought a chance to turn things around... that match was over choreographed... cause everyone was telegraphing their moves... plus, can you say sloppy?... wow... and again, more interference from outside people.. moore interfering didnt do it for me...
tna knockout match... zzzzzz... honestly, for the first time ever, the WWE divas had a better match on raw than these chicks did on tna... poor showing for the chicks...
sting and rvd?... i loved seeing rvd again... he looks to be in good shape and ready for a good run... but 10 seconds?... it made the new heel look weak and rvd debut fizzle... it does help rvd get a babyface start, but thats the best they had?... wow... waste of 2 huge names...
by the way... the sting destroying rvd with the bat... can you say deja vu?... it reminded me a lot of batista turning heel, and destroying cena with a chair... almost a direct copy of what the WWE did... although, not as well... originality there tna, originality... try it once in a while...
to keep this short... tna was loaded with promo's... very litle wrestling... total non-stop promos was short of the mark tonight... i'm sure tna marks will come out of everywhere today to claim superiority... but you have to look at this from reality... it was sub-par...
so... in 2 hours could tna have had more shots of hogan and bischoff?... seriously... let someone else get tv time... and hogan returning to the ring was sad... watching a legend like hulk do that tonight reminded me of a cripple...
there were some positives tonight... and things they can run with and develop... but tna has a very long way to go... very long... they had a month to plan for this show... and it didnt show... maybe the ratings will surprise... but tna's second opportunity at the monday night war was a letdown...
I'm not gonna go through the whole thing BUT I cannot believe you can complain about the X Division 3 way..... that match was awesome, regardless of Shannon Moore (who cares) and after all the bi###ing done on this site about not enough X Division... these 3 put on a very good match which has everything you want from X....
and as far as a let down? This was a far better show than Raw was, Raw was dogsh##!
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3/9/2010 11:07:00 AM
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and as far as a let down? This was a far better show than Raw was, Raw was dogsh##!
Couldn't agree more Pocket...
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3/9/2010 1:10:00 PM
I didn't ask to see more X Division... I don't even remember asking to see TNGAY. Probably cause I never did. Orton v.s. Legacy is a bigger feud than anything they have going in TNA right now... and thats sad. Total Nonstop Promos is a way better name as there is hardly ever any "action". 20 minutes if your lucky. Williams, Kaz, & Daniels are all extremely talented but of what I watched of that match it was sloppy. It was like they were told five minutes before the match and they said ok you got five minutes to wrestle and you just go out there and improvise. LOL at Shannon Moore being #1 Contender (love the guy but he has done nothing). This can't even be considered a WAR.
Also one last note... lol at LVE holding a Title... that'll make them prestigous.
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3/9/2010 2:18:00 PM
wow... are you serious?... impact was "far" better?... with all due respect pocket... what show were you watching?... perhaps the optimism and tna marxism is getting in the way of unbiased judgment...
i was pushing for more x-division... mostly cause it means less old decrepit farts... but the high risk semi-extreme style is appealing to me... but what i saw last night was terrible... poorly choreographed, sloppy, botched moves... it was a disaster... many people besides myself agree... the word awesome did not come to mind... at least not without failure following it...
let me go one step further... tna had 3 big marketing ploys last night... lets analyze... 1. the first 5 minutes... 2. the in ring return of rvd... 3. hogan and flair in the ring...
1. the first 5 minutes last night was a complete flop... hell... the first 10 minutes were solely hogan and abyss to the ring... hogan promo... confrontation by styles and flair... where's the beef?... cause this sucked... nothing epic, nothing good, nothing defining... failure #1...
2. rvd returning to the ring... while it was a nice establishment as a babyface... the cheap victory over the newly heel sting was a waste of his services... and 10 seconds?... wow... just plain lame... crossing 2 separate big storylines is never a good idea... and tna shows why... there was no real harm to either character because of this, but it is still inane... failure #2...
3. there is absolutely no debate that hogan and flair in the ring last night was absolutely awful... a complete disgrace to the legends hogan and flair... they even made abyss and styles look bad just trying to cope with their crappiness... no website has praised their work... none... and its because they suck... plus they dominated the show... pushing down others in the process... it was a 2 hour hogan love fest... just plain sad...
raw certainly wasnt great... but there was a lot of good stuff... can tna say that?... well, they can... but backing that up is hard... face it, tna had a month to prepare for last night... and they fell short of expectation... no matter how tna and the marks spin this... it wasnt as good as it should have been... better luck next week tna...
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3/9/2010 3:39:00 PM
Dude, TNA will never live up to what you want from them until they go bust because that how you come across!
As for me being biased.... dude I'll jump ship like a fu##ing pirate.. its all about which product I'm enjoying more.. I'm loving the option right now of having two shows to watch. The main problem with that is....
on show is in a complete transitional phase, so everything is on an up and down, one week good, one week bad.....
the other show is run by a guy who has lost his passion for the industry and doesn't feel the fans who made him who he is deserve anything better than gay magicians and leprechauns.
So we have one company who has an aim of what they wanna do, but are struggling to find.... the other has become lost in its own arrogance of having no competition.
Last night, Raw was dogsh##. They did too little to build to WM, getting sloppy by using video's to put storylines over instead of booking the fu##ing show. Yeah that would be nice. Undertaker/HBK promos were wank, as was the HHH/Sheamus segment (extremley predictable) and the main event featured Kozlov, yes KOZLOV, Mark zzzzzzzzzzzzz Henry and Thwagger.... whoopiedoo!
I enjoyed iMPACT. They sure had some dumb segments, and we can all say that nobody really wanted to see Hogan and Flair wrestle, but I was actually suprised that Hogan took as many bumps as he did. They gave us a more adult option, with the cursing and blood which some crave. RVD debuted, Sting turned (proper) heel for the first time in his career and Jeff Hardy returned. The X Div match was cool and I think they did a good job of stepping up when it was live... live seems to bring out the better in them... recorded gives them too many options or something.
Neither show were perfect by any means, but TNA put on a good effort last night, and EFFORT is clearly missing from Raw and has been for a long long time. Even at WrestleMania season, Vince doesn't feel we deserve better! Makes me sick!
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3/9/2010 11:34:00 PM
Couldn't agree with you more Pocket!
TNA had some great segments last night, and for the Hogan/Flair match I really thought Hogan was going to sit outside the ring, wait for Abyss to beat down Flair and Styles for 10 minutes, come in, Hulk up and drop the leg for the pin... but he went 80% of the match himself and took some pretty bug bumps for a guy with metal hips and knees.
We have to face it, a guy who's as big a mark for WWE as STFU is never going to agree that TNA could ever put on a good show. I admit, the Knockout's segment was weak, and the RVD/Sting segment could have played out better, but overall it was a damn entertaining show.
I'm not a WWE or TNA mark, and unlike STFU I'll admit who had the better show. Last night it was TNA. Does next week look promising for WWE? It absolutely does, judging by the lead-up, but Monday's show was abysmal. Vince McMahon could personally walk up to STFU, drop his pants and take a big steaming S#!T on STFU's face, and we would get a long winded 3000 word essay the next day on how it was the greatest S#!T ever and that it was greater than anything Hogan or TNA could ever do, and smelled better also.
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3/10/2010 1:44:00 AM
STFU isn't being biased, he gave an objective view of the shows, and admitted in the first paragraph that WWE was also a letdown and didn't build WM.
Numbers don't lie, and both shows have shed viewers. They both need to react.
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3/10/2010 2:12:00 AM
yeah sod... it does clearly say that... but why let the truth get in the way of his pro-tna diatribe... afterall, he thought his one man crusade to validate tna would work... hell, i think he really does believe tna had a good show...
and slappy... where have i openly praised WWE and called them the greatest thing ever?... i would like to know... cause i know you made that sh*t up to try and fabricate a point... cause you couldnt make one on your own...
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